tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2979068210040167221.post3936531016734166303..comments2024-03-12T06:26:55.039+05:00Comments on Writer's Block tgh: Abrogation In The Qur'anTahir Gul Hasanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02441522340391282744noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2979068210040167221.post-80676376721424932902010-08-15T14:18:01.703+05:002010-08-15T14:18:01.703+05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2979068210040167221.post-26255343776656871742010-08-14T17:22:51.023+05:002010-08-14T17:22:51.023+05:00Shah sahib, I forgot to give you the footnote 105:...Shah sahib, I forgot to give you the footnote 105:<br /><br />According to all the lexicographers, the word khamr (derived from the verb khamara, "he concealed" or "obscured") denotes every substance the use of which obscures the intellect, i.e., intoxicates. Hence, the prohibition of intoxicants laid down in this verse comprises not merely alcoholic drinks, but also drugs which have a similar effect. The only exception from this total prohibition arises in cases of "dire necessity" (in the strictest sense of these words), as stipulated in the last sentence of verse 3 of this surah: that is to say, in cases where illness or a bodily accident makes the administration of intoxicating drugs or of alcohol imperative and unavoidable. - As regards the expression "idolatrous practices" (ansab, lit., "idolatrous altars"), see note 8 of this surah. This term has, I believe, been used here metaphorically, and is meant to circumscribe all practices of an idolatrous nature - like saint-worship, the attribution of "magic" properties to certain inanimate objects, the observance of all manner of superstitious taboos, and so forth. - For an explanation of the expression rendered by me as "divining of the future" (al-azlam, lit., "divining-arrows"), see note 9 on the second paragraph of verse 3 of this surah.Tahir Gul Hasanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02441522340391282744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2979068210040167221.post-67713854284093606212010-08-14T17:19:27.846+05:002010-08-14T17:19:27.846+05:00Shah sahib:
"Hussein, Yazeed, Qur'an in ...Shah sahib:<br /><br />"Hussein, Yazeed, Qur'an in my blood"...what are you talking about now? Not even the prophets spoke with such forceful pride. By Allah, I don't think like you do!<br /><br />Don't drink, always stay sober; plain and simple. Imagine how angry the messenger of Allah (not to forget Ali ibn Abi Talib) will be on Judgement Day with those who consume alcohol under various pretexts.<br /><br />5:90 <br />"O YOU who have attained to faith! Intoxicants, and games of chance, and idolatrous practices, and the divining of the future are but a loathsome evil of Satan's doing:105 shun it, then, so that you might attain to a happy state!"<br /><br />Peace, always.<br /><br />:)Tahir Gul Hasanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02441522340391282744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2979068210040167221.post-69461929298851298472010-08-14T04:19:02.226+05:002010-08-14T04:19:02.226+05:00@IGH
You don't need to convert me as I am an ...@IGH<br /><br />You don't need to convert me as I am an ethnic Muslim, with Quran in my blood. The progeny of Hussain cannot be converted to become the prgeny of Yazeed Layeen. <br /><br />In any case the Author of the compilation called a Book does advise its readers to seek guidance only from Him - vide verse 5 of Surat Fatehah (The Opening)- by reciting several times daily 'Ehdina siratal mustaqimah' (Show us, 'O God', the straight path).<br /><br />ShantiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2979068210040167221.post-15814787995350073172010-08-13T16:14:20.631+05:002010-08-13T16:14:20.631+05:00TeShah:
I cannot CONVERT you; not even prophets c...TeShah:<br /><br />I cannot CONVERT you; not even prophets could do it when it came to hard-core unbelievers!<br /><br />Read the beginning of the second Surah (chapter) of the Qur'an to know that it indeed is a BOOK of guidance for those who seek help. It doesn't effect Allah if you disagree with Him.<br /><br />YOU need to take the right steps; the ball is in your court so don't waste your energy please.Tahir Gul Hasanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02441522340391282744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2979068210040167221.post-50247148132070465062010-08-13T15:08:16.540+05:002010-08-13T15:08:16.540+05:00Posted by teshah on Monday August 9, 2010 05:59 p...Posted by teshah on Monday August 9, 2010 05:59 pm<br />@tahir<br /><br />Thank you dear for your kind response. As advised by you I read your blog on the subject but sorry to say it does not provide answer to my question,"whether one can 'read' (It is commonly called in the native language 'parhna')namaz when drunk".<br /><br />My view is, Quran is not a 'book' in the common sense but a sort of a journal, recording messages as were 'received' by the prophet, hence some apparent 'incongruities'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2979068210040167221.post-53311518902617440562010-08-13T15:06:20.197+05:002010-08-13T15:06:20.197+05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Tahir Gul Hasanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02441522340391282744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2979068210040167221.post-20182866523605974212010-08-13T13:35:53.687+05:002010-08-13T13:35:53.687+05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.于庭吳https://www.blogger.com/profile/06976135539233932144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2979068210040167221.post-13345902679830801122010-08-11T14:44:48.412+05:002010-08-11T14:44:48.412+05:00Posted by mulayamyadav on Sunday August 8, 2010 1...Posted by mulayamyadav on Sunday August 8, 2010 12:53 pm<br />MAARIFUL TAFSIR by Maulana Mufti Muhammad Shafi<br /><br />This commentary was made by a premier Pakistani scholar.<br /><br />On verses 2:106, 107<br /><br />At first, Muslims used to pray with their faces turned towards the Baytul-Maqdis at Jerusalem; later on, Allah commanded them to turn towards the Ka’bah. Similarly, certain other injunctions were abrogated altogether, or replaced by others. …<br /><br />…<br /><br />The verse declares that if Allah chooses to abrogate an injunction contained in a certain verse, while retaining the verse itself as part of the Holy Quran, or chooses to remove a verse from the memories of men altogether, there is nothing objectionable in it, for Allah alone knows the wisdom that lies in His choice, and He makes these changes for the good of men. …Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2979068210040167221.post-67150438484156352872010-08-11T14:44:21.693+05:002010-08-11T14:44:21.693+05:00mulayamyadav:
Please stop cutting and pasting wit...mulayamyadav:<br /><br />Please stop cutting and pasting without understanding anything about what God says and what the 'sayings' of the Prophet say.<br /><br />You are groping in the dark and I hope some day you will see the truth by reading the original texts and not what WikiIslam or Answering Islam prints.<br /><br />The case of stoning to death was for a Jewish couple who themselves came to the prophet for a decision, and he asked them what Mosaic Law prescribed. Obviously THEY stoned themselves to death by admitting what THEIR Law said! He did NOT pass a judgement according to the Qur'an and whosoever thinks death is prescribed by the Qur'an for all sorts of offences, he or she is entirely lost.<br /><br />Please refrain from referring to obscure 'sayings' if you wish to understand Islam.<br /><br />Shanti.Tahir Gul Hasanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02441522340391282744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2979068210040167221.post-73150442503301414292010-08-11T14:43:29.994+05:002010-08-11T14:43:29.994+05:00Posted by mulayamyadav on Sunday August 8, 2010 06...Posted by mulayamyadav on Sunday August 8, 2010 06:54 am<br /><br />The fighting ability of victory for Muslims is also abrogated by one verse following the next....<br />"Prophet, rouse the faithful to arms. If there are twenty steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish two hundred; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. God has now lightened your burden, for He knows that you are weak. If there are a hundred steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish two hundred; and if there are a thousand, they shall, by God's will, defeat two thousand. God is with those that are steadfast." Sura 8:65, 66.<br /><br /><br />The Sword verses: the Call to "fight and slay the pagan (idolaters) wherever you find them" (sura 9:5); or "strike off their heads in battle" (sura 47:5); or "make war on the unbeliever in Allah, until they pay tribute" (sura 9:29); or "Fight then... until the religion be all of it Allah's" (sura 8:39); or "a grievous penalty against those who reject faith" (sura 9:3). All of these contradict "There is no compulsion in religion" (sura 2:256). Note here that sura 9 was one of the last suras to be "revealed to Muhammad". Logically, it should abrogate "there is no compulsion in Islam".<br /><br />The night prayer performed by reciting the Quran ought to be more or less half the time of the night (Sura 73:2). This was changed to as much as may be easy for you (verse 20).Tahir Gul Hasanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02441522340391282744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2979068210040167221.post-55752926283677870892010-08-11T14:40:46.489+05:002010-08-11T14:40:46.489+05:00Posted by mulayamyadav on Sunday August 8, 2010 0...Posted by mulayamyadav on Sunday August 8, 2010 06:54 am<br />LIST OF ABROGATING / ABROGATED QURANIC VERSES<br /><br />There are many cases of abrogation but for lack of space I limit my selection.<br /><br />In sura 2:142-144, we find the change of the "Qibla", the direction of prayer, from Jerusalem to Mecca.<br /><br />The change of punishment for adulteresses: life imprisonment (according to sura 4:15) was then changed to 100 strokes by flogging (according to sura 24:2). Yet, Islamic law prescribes stoning, based on the practice of Muhammad who commanded to stone those guilty of adultery. The punishment of stoning for adultery is seen as either an example of abrogation of the Quran by the Sunna, or as an example of a verse of which the reading has been abrogated (removed from the text of the Quran) but the meaning remains in force. On the other hand, verses 4:15 and 24:2 are abrogated in meaning while the text remains in the Quran for recitation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2979068210040167221.post-55014340846496656582010-08-11T14:38:54.335+05:002010-08-11T14:38:54.335+05:00Posted by mulayamyadav on Sunday August 8, 2010 0...Posted by mulayamyadav on Sunday August 8, 2010 06:54 am<br />LIST OF ABROGATING / ABROGATED QURANIC VERSES<br /><br />There are many cases of abrogation but for lack of space I limit my selection.<br /><br />In sura 2:142-144, we find the change of the "Qibla", the direction of prayer, from Jerusalem to Mecca.<br /><br />The change of punishment for adulteresses: life imprisonment (according to sura 4:15) was then changed to 100 strokes by flogging (according to sura 24:2). Yet, Islamic law prescribes stoning, based on the practice of Muhammad who commanded to stone those guilty of adultery. The punishment of stoning for adultery is seen as either an example of abrogation of the Quran by the Sunna, or as an example of a verse of which the reading has been abrogated (removed from the text of the Quran) but the meaning remains in force. On the other hand, verses 4:15 and 24:2 are abrogated in meaning while the text remains in the Quran for recitation.<br /><br /><br />The fighting ability of victory for Muslims is also abrogated by one verse following the next....<br />"Prophet, rouse the faithful to arms. If there are twenty steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish two hundred; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. God has now lightened your burden, for He knows that you are weak. If there are a hundred steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish two hundred; and if there are a thousand, they shall, by God's will, defeat two thousand. God is with those that are steadfast." Sura 8:65, 66.<br /><br /><br />The Sword verses: the Call to "fight and slay the pagan (idolaters) wherever you find them" (sura 9:5); or "strike off their heads in battle" (sura 47:5); or "make war on the unbeliever in Allah, until they pay tribute" (sura 9:29); or "Fight then... until the religion be all of it Allah's" (sura 8:39); or "a grievous penalty against those who reject faith" (sura 9:3). All of these contradict "There is no compulsion in religion" (sura 2:256). Note here that sura 9 was one of the last suras to be "revealed to Muhammad". Logically, it should abrogate "there is no compulsion in Islam".<br /><br />The night prayer performed by reciting the Quran ought to be more or less half the time of the night (Sura 73:2). This was changed to as much as may be easy for you (verse 20).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2979068210040167221.post-53885142550541724862010-08-11T14:38:15.534+05:002010-08-11T14:38:15.534+05:00Posted by mulayamyadav on Sunday August 8, 2010 0...Posted by mulayamyadav on Sunday August 8, 2010 06:46 am<br />QURANIC VERSES SUPPORTING THE DOCTRINE OF ABROGATION<br /><br />Here are the actual Quranic verses that reference abrogation. All quotes are from Dawood's English Translation of the Quran.[7]<br /><br />2:106: "If We abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten, We will replace it by a better one or one similar...."<br /><br />13:39: "God abrogates and confirms what He pleases. His is the Decree Eternal."<br /><br />17:86: "If We pleased We could take away that which We have revealed to you:.."<br /><br />16:101 "When We change one verse for another (God knows best what He reveals), they say: "You are an impostor...."<br /><br />22:52: "Never have we sent a single prophet or apostle before you with whose wishes Satan did not tamper. But God abrogates the interjections of Satan and confirms His own revelations."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2979068210040167221.post-38901616343201328432010-08-11T06:40:16.565+05:002010-08-11T06:40:16.565+05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com